This iconic 1980s romantic-comedy centers on Mick “Crocodile” Dundee (Paul Hogan), a rough-and-tumble Aussie outbacker who can fend off a killer croc as well as a rowdy pub goer. His adventurous antics become the focus of New York newspaper writer Sue Charlton (Linda Kozlowski), who asks him to return with her to Manhattan. Once in the Big Apple, Dundee manages to amble his way through all sorts of urban curiosities, making friends with even the most hard-nosed of New Yorkers.
Filmed in both Australia and America, Crocodile Dundee features a great deal of New York locations in the second half of its running time, most of which fulfill the standard Gotham checklist.
FORMAT NOTE: Regular readers of this website might notice that the “then/now” images below are not the usual animated GIFs, but are instead the standard side-by-side stills. I’m right now trying to decide whether to continue displaying them this way or not in future articles, so if you have an opinion, please leave a comment below.
Sue Visits Australia
Obviously, the first half of the movie was not shot in New York, but I thought I’d include a couple key locations from Australia. Since my area of expertise is NYC, I relied on other movie location websites to identify what parts of Australia were used for these scenes. Not sure who first identified some of these more secluded locations, but the Walkabout Creek Inn on the Landsborough Highway has been a well-known Queensland tourist attraction ever since the movie came out.
Originally titled the Federal Hotel, the owners officially changed the name to the Walkabout Creek Hotel and moved the building to the corner of Kirby and Wylde Street. The layout of the pub looks quite different than it did in 1985, but they still have the original wooden bar on display and have retained the stricture’s false façade which was added for the movie. Also on display in the front parking lot is the original truck used in several of the Outback scenes. (Incidentally, if you’re interested in purchasing a piece of movie history, Walkabout Creek Hotel is currently up for sale, listed for $1.4 million.)
When it came to the scenes that took place deep in the bush, most of them were filmed inside Kakadu National Park in the Northern Territory.
Even though the cast and crew were inside an established national park, back in the 1980s, it was still quite a rugged and dangerous place to visit. Today, Kakadu Park has become a little more tourist-friendly with a better system of access roads, but it’s still quite of an adventure to get there given that it’s nestled away in the remote northeast corner of Oz.
Arriving in New York
Now in my home turf of New York, the second half of the film was the main focus of my attention.
The initial skyline shot of Lower Manhattan was a typical establishing shot seen in many 80s movies taking place in NYC. The only thing that changes from title to title is the exact vantage point, and that can usually be figured out by matching up the spatial relationship between skyscrapers.
You might’ve noticed in the “before/after” image above that a lot of skyscrapers have sprouted up since the 1980s, most of them in what was then a burgeoning Battery Park City. The emergence of so many tall buildings did add to the difficulty of finding the correct vantage point, but once I spotted Ellis Island in the foreground, it made lining things up much easier, bringing me to Liberty State Park in New Jersey.
And one interesting thing about this particular vantage point of Lower Manhattan is that you can clearly see the positioning of the new WTC compared to the old Twin Towers.
When it came to the airport scenes, it was already identified by several sources as taking place at Newark Airport, and after spotting signs for Gates 50-68, I deduced they were in Terminal B (which has been used in other films during this period, like the 1990 comedy, Quick Change). The terminal has since been heavily remodeled so it was nearly impossible to find the exact spots used in the film, so I grabbed a few pics of where I thought this scene roughly took place.
Driving to the Hotel
A good chunk of Crocodile Dundee’s New York scenes have easily-identifiable locations, starting with this one. This is mostly thanks to the presence of the distinct New York Public Library Main Branch on Fifth (whose exterior facade and plaza are sparkling clean in the scene after receiving a major renovation about a year prior.)
What I love best about this brief scene is how the New Yorker dismisses Dundee in a fairly non-confrontational manner. The guy clearly thinks Dundee is a wacko, but he just sort of plays along to get him out of his hair.
This bit part was played by lazy-eyed character actor, Paul Greco, who was in one of my favorite NYC movies, The Warriors, playing the leader of the smalltime Bronx gang, the Orphans. Green had a fairly modest career, relegated to supporting roles in largely forgotten movies and TV shows in the 80s and 90s. But his unique look always stood out to me and I would delight whenever I’d see him on screen.
Plaza Hotel
This is another unequivocal filming location, as the Plaza Hotel on Fifth Avenue is probably one of the most famous hotels in the world.
As you can see from the modern photos, the building is currently being renovated and is surrounded by scaffolding. This work has been going on for quite some time, and when I asked Neil, the doorman, if he knew when the work would finally be completed, he admitted he had no idea. He then quipped that the scaffolding has been up for so long that it’s being considered for landmark status. (I’d be curious if he tries out that joke on the $1,000-a-night customers.)
When it came to the interiors, the consensus seems to be that the hotel suite was just a set built by production. Since rooms in the Plaza apparently don’t have bidets, it probably was a set, but I doubt it was built on an official studio soundstage. My guess is the crew built it in some generic empty space in New York City, because pretty much every other scene in the movie was filmed at a practical location.
While the hotel suite was fake, the hotel lobby was one hundred percent real. Crocodile Dundee, like many other movies that shot in the Plaza, used the check-in desk in what is now the “Resident-Only” section, located near the 59th Street entrance. I can see why film productions have preferred using this area over the main check-in area, as it’s got a lot more elegance and charm.
While this part of the lobby was open to the public back in the 80s, it has since been restricted to full-time residents after over half of the hotel rooms were converted into high end condominiums in the late-2000s. Miki Naftali, chief owner of the property at the time, admitted that it would have been more profitable to convert the entire building into condos but his development company “wanted to keep the integrity of the space.”
“The Plaza is unique not only in the location and the fabulous exterior, but there are some fabulous interior spaces with so much history, and we wanted to maintain those spaces,” he said.
Exploring the City
This walking sequence was one of the first less-than-obvious filming locations, but judging by the stores and buildings, I was pretty sure it took place somewhere along Fifth Avenue.
Since I couldn’t make out any store names in the scene, I just cruised down the Avenue in Google Street View, starting at Central Park. Before long, I spotted matching architectural elements down at E 51st-52nd Streets. And what’s nice is that there is still a lamppost at the same spot on the sidewalk, giving you the opportunity to climb it just like Paul Hogan.
Having identified the lamppost location, I was then able to figure out that the preceding scene of Mick saying “G’day” to folks was filmed around the corner on 53rd, making his travels geographically accurate.
A lot of the buildings on 53rd Street have changed in appearance over the years, but the fire hydrant (along with the protective traffic posts on either side of it) seems to be the same from the film.
Fancy Restaurant
This restaurant was the very last location to be identified, and was found with the help of my research partner, Blakeslee (although I came pretty close to figuring it out on my own).
Assuming they filmed this in a real NYC restaurant, the big clue was the unusual bird theme seen throughout the space, which included several large paintings of toucans. Focusing on that colorful South American bird, I searched for any former NYC restaurant that was called Toucan(s), but came up empty.
Blakeslee also aimed his attention on the South American bird theme, which eventually helped him decipher the restaurant name seen on the door at the top of the scene.
Turns out, the restaurant’s name was a variation of the tropical bird —Tucano— which specifically refers to a group of indigenous peoples in Columbia and northern Ecuador. But surprisingly, even though the name and interior design were South American inspired, the cuisine was French. (And to add to the confusion, in the movie, it’s implied that the cuisine is Italian.)
The restaurant’s colorful ornithological decor was the work of Adam Tihany, who was the favored designer of New York’s top restaurateurs back then. Starting in the late seventies, Tihany built his career around the art of hospitality, described in a 1988 New York Magazine article as:
“The Neil Simon of designers—a reliable maker of hits with enough brilliance to give pause to those who might dismiss him.”
Still active today, Tihany first grabbed the New York spotlight after designing the Euro-style discotheque, Club A, which was directly connected to the Tucano restaurant.
Today, the space at 333 E 60th is home to Primal Cut Steakhouse, and interestingly enough, the restaurant is still connected to a club in the same building. But while the former Club A was a conventional nightclub, today’s Sapphire is actually a strip club. And the adult entertainment is apparently extended into the steakhouse where scantily-dressed ladies are said to serve the food.
Richard’s Apartment
This was the second-to-last location to be found and was certainly the trickiest to unearth. In general, residential streets can be tough to identify since many are somewhat generic looking. This becomes especially problematic when a scene takes place at night, making it almost impossible to see any street addresses on the buildings.
Fortunately, once I lightened up this scene on my computer, a few clues emerged. First, Richard and his neighbors’ apartment buildings were slightly recessed from a more modern-looking building to the right, creating a noticeable wall; and second, I discovered a sign on a far building that said, THALIA.
Guessing that Thalia was a neighborhood restaurant, I figured after a few clicks on Google, I’d find an old listing of the place lickety-split. But it turned out, the only reference I could find for a Thalia restaurant was a modern establishment on 8th Avenue that didn’t open until 1999.
Expanding my search, I was able to find three other New York businesses from the 1980s bearing the name Thalia. One was a small movie house on Manhattan’s Upper West Side (which was briefly featured in Woody Allen’s Annie Hall), and another was a Spanish theatre in Sunnyside, Queens. However, I quickly dismissed both since the buildings and street layouts didn’t resemble what appeared in this scene.
The third place I found was a sister theater to the UWS movie house called Thalia SoHo, located at 15 Vandam Street. And while the architecture on that street looked similar to this scene, there were a lot of inconstancies, telling me it wasn’t the right place.
Slowly getting frustrated, I asked Blakeslee to offer a helping hand but he wasn’t having much luck either. That’s when I spotted a valuable clue in the scene that had eluded me before — near the street corner, there was a lighted poster on what looked like a bus shelter. I then spotted a circular sign on a nearby post which resembled typical NYC bus signage.
Assuming I was correct with my assessment, I immediately scanned a Manhattan bus map looking for any routes that went down a one-way residential street. I eventually zeroed in on the M27 (now the M50), a crosstown line that goes along 49th and 50th Streets. While checking out the route in Google Street View, I stopped at a row of townhouses at 241-247 E 49th that receded back from a neighboring building, creating the same sort of wall that appeared in the scene.
Feeling optimistic, I looked at the area more closely and found a bunch more matching elements. Aside from the walls and the bus stop, I found matching windows at both 249 E 49th and 924 Second Avenue, pretty much convincing me I found the right spot.
As luck would have it, Richard’s apartment was right next door to another filming location — the exterior of Senator Thomas Jordan’s townhouse in The Manchurian Candidate (1962). Sadly, that building has been under construction for the last few years, hiding it behind a cluster of boards and scaffolding, and ruining most of my modern photos. But at least Richard’s apartment is clear of any obstructions.
Now fairly confident of the filming location, I decided to do a new internet search for Thalia (partly out of curiosity, but also as a way to find one last piece of evidence). But this time around, I included “49th Street” in my search, and that small change ended up netting me some helpful results. I ultimately discovered that Thalia was a Hi-Fi Audio shop, described by musician Peter Wolf as “one of the first audiophile businesses in New York.”
Originally based in the Bronx, the audio store moved to several different locations in Manhattan (including E 49th Street), specializing in installing elaborate audio systems in people’s homes. According to a 1982 interview with Alex Rutman, the company’s president at the time, they installed customized systems that could range in price from $1,500 to as much as $60,000, servicing some of New York’s rich and famous, such as Dustin Hoffman and Marlo Thomas.
The Hi-Fi equipment and service company lasted for another decade after that, closing up shop sometime in the mid-1990s.
East Village Bar
If the bar in this sequence looks familiar, it’s understandable, since Vazac’s Horseshoe Bar (sometimes referred to as “7B”) has been used in countless movies and TV shows. In fact, this East Village drinkery on the corner of 7th Street and Avenue B has probably appeared in more productions than any other tavern in NYC, although the Old Town Bar on 18th Street holds a close second. (Rounding out the list would probably be the historic Pete’s Tavern and McSorley’s Old Ale House.)
Located next to Tompkins Square Park, the brick corner building was first built in 1930 as a Polish catering hall. By the 1940s, the space had become a blue collar bar and has been sloshing drinks ever since. But it wasn’t until the 1970s that 7B became a regular backdrop for film and TV productions.
In addition to Crocodile Dundee and its 1988 sequel, 7B has been featured in a bunch of other movies. This includes The Godfather Part II, the largely forgotten 1974 comedy, Law and Disorder, the Mickey Rourke horror-thriller, Angel Heart, Jodie Foster’s 1987 independent crime drama, Five Corners, the 1993 Johnny Depp film, Arizona Dream, and two Sidney Lumet pictures, Serpico and The Verdict (the latter having the East Village bar posing as a Boston pub).
7B was also the main location for a 1985 short film, Tom Goes to the Bar, starring a young and lanky Tom Noonan.
Some of the TV shows that were filmed there include Law and Order, Person of Interest, Sex and the City, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, and the Netflix series, Russian Doll (whose “Groundhog Day” premise has the bar featured in every episode of the first season).
It’s hard to know exactly why 7B has remained a favorite spot for location-scouts, but part of its appeal has to do with how little it’s changed over the decades. Aside from its timeless gritty charm with a unique corner entrance and old casement windows, one of the great advantages of 7B is its namesake horseshoe bar situated in the center of the space. By having an island bar, filmmakers are given the opportunity to shoot from several different angles — something most cramped, old-school NYC bars are unable to provide.
Even though the inside has happily remained unchanged over the years, the outside recently got some much-needed repairs, which sadly included painting over a long-standing ghost sign for a nearby funeral home, estimated to date back to the 1960s.
And just to address the different variations of its name — while these days this corner watering hole is usually referred to as the “Horseshoe Bar,” when they filmed Crocodile Dundee in ’84, it was known as “Vazac Hall.” However, when I lived in the East Village in the 1990s, my friends and I always referred to it as “7B.”
Calling places by their intersection was common practice in Alphabet City back then, like the old punk bar on 7th Street and Avenue A, aptly named “A7.” There’s something lyrical about a number-letter combo, and it was helpful having the address baked into the name, considering this was back when there was no such thing as Yelp or Google Maps.
Top of the Rock
The top of Rockefeller Center has been used a few times in 80s films, most notably when all the spirits fly through the sky in Ghostbusters (1984). While not as famous as some other observation decks, Rockefeller Center has the advantage of offering nice views of the Empire State building to the south and Central Park to the north.
And the observation deck has a new touristy bonus — for an additional 25 bucks, you can have your picture taken on a steel beam set-up, which replicates the iconic “Lunch atop a Skyscraper” photograph from 1932.
Times Square
Astor Place Hair
This location was easy to identify since it featured Astor Place Hair, a rip-roaring East Village barbershop known for attracting large crowds outside. Some folks would be there waiting on line to get a cut, others were there just to gawk.
The idea of watching people getting haircuts may seem odd to modern viewers of the film, but having a crowd gathered outside Astor Place Hair was common back the eighties. (There would be even larger crowds gathered at the nearby “Cage” basketball court on Sixth Avenue.)
Back in its heyday, Astor was a cavernous madhouse on multiple floors, buzzing along to the beat of the rock music blasting through the speakers. On any given day, it wouldn’t be unusual to see something like 100 barbers wielding their cutting instruments, sometimes giving traditional, conservative haircuts and other times conjuring up wildly creative punk styles.
Not only were the hairstyles wild, apparently a lot of the barbers were just as wild. George Alan, who worked there in 1987, recalled on his blog the time one of his co-workers offered him a coffee, which unbeknownst to him, was laced with acid. He then spent the rest of the day tripping, thinking he was going crazy as he cut and styled customers’ hair.
These days, Astor Place Hair is a lot less riotous, and quite a bit smaller (the space seen in Crocodile Dundee is now a coffee shop), but at least it’s still around. The famed barbershop has had to face possible closures several times over its 76 years of existence, the most recent during the 2020 pandemic. Things were looking grim for the family-owned business until some deep-pocketed guardian angels stepped in to help keep the trimmers trimming.
Personally, Astor was the only New York barbershop I went to in the 1980s and 1990s, mainly because it was cheap and convenient. That lasted until a few of my preferred barbers left to start their own shop a block away on St. Marks Place, and I faithfully followed. But to be clear, even though Astor was famous for embracing the city’s punk rock lifestyle, I never got a Mohawk (faux or real) during any of my visits.
That’s a Knife
This is by far the most famous scene from the movie. It was shown in all the trailers and TV spots and has become a solid part of pop culture. And naturally, with such a well-known scene, its location has been referenced numerous times in books and websites.
All sources agree that the scene took place at the South Arcade beneath what is now called the David Dinkins Municipal Building. However, whenever I’ve seen an article about this location, they never specify which columns the actors stood next to, and just show generic wide photos of the arcade.
That being said, once I was at the actual location, it wasn’t too hard to find the exact spots used in the scene.
One last thing about this location. I assume this was just a coincidence, but this was the fourth place that also was used in 1984’s Ghostbusters. The other three places are the 42nd Street Library, the previously mentioned Rockefeller Center, and 46th Street in Times Square. A fifth one will later appear in the movie’s climax, taking place next to the U.S.S. Maine Monument at Columbus Circle.
The Carlton Mansion
Mansions like this are always interesting additions to these New York films, often creating a bit of a location puzzler. Unless they are a widely known estate, you never can be quite sure where they’re located — Long Island, New Jersey, Upstate New York, or sometimes even in California. Thankfully, in Crocodile Dundee, they used the W. B. Thompson Mansion which is semi-famous, so it was already identified on a few different websites.
Also known as Alder Manor, the historic Yonkers mansion was built in the early 20th-century for William Boyce Thompson, a mining tycoon and financier. And just as it was described in Dundee, it was primarily built as his “weekend home.” The estate stayed in the Thompson family until 1950 when it was willed to the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of New York and became a Catholic school (the first in Yonkers).
By the time they filmed these scenes in 1985, the Italian Renaissance estate had become a junior college. A few years later, the campus was closed and the mansion fell into disrepair. Then in 1997, Tara Circle, an Irish American cultural organization, bought the property and began a restoration project.
When I visited the site in 2023, the exterior of the mansion seemed to be in the middle of some new repairs and was looking a little rough. But inside, many of the rooms appeared to be well-maintained and are still being rented for private events and film shoots.
Some of the projects shot there include: the films, A Beautiful Mind, Mona Lisa Smile, The Good Shepherd, The Royal Tenenbaums, and John Wick 3; the TV shows, Gotham, Gossip Girl, and The Blacklist; a music video for Jay-Z; and a catalog for Victoria Secret.
Over the years, some legends have circulated that W. B. Thompson Mansion is actually haunted, possibly in connection to some alleged satanic rituals taking place on or near the grounds. Nothing very credible, of course, but it does add a little eerie lore to this historic Yonkers estate.
Alley Action
It wouldn’t be an eighties New York movie without a good alley scene, which is ironic since Manhattan has very few classic alleyways. This makes for a limited number of choices for location scouts, but it also makes it fairly easy to figure out where a scene took place.
With only a few options available, I can usually identify a given alley without doing too much work. If it was filmed in the eighties or nineties, it’s usually either Cortlandt Alley (like in Crocodile Dundee) or Great Jones Alley. But more likely, it’s someplace in Toronto, Vancouver or Los Angeles, doubling for NYC.
The Next Morning
Subway Finale
Naturally, Columbus Circle was easy to identify, and as I mentioned earlier, it is the fifth location–overlap with Ghostbusters. It’s where a possessed Louis searches for the Gatekeeper and later where the Stay Puft Marshmallow man makes his first appearance.
For a long time, I assumed the subway scene was also filmed at Columbus Circle since the 59th Street station has one unused platform on the IND line (plus I know at least one movie has shot on location there). But when I was researching the 2019 movie Joker, I discovered that it, as well as Dundee, used the abandoned platform at Brooklyn’s 9th Ave Station.
Situated at the edge of the MTA’s largest staging yards for work trains, 9th Ave’s Lower Level has been abandoned since 1975. It was last used as the terminal for the old Culver Shuttle, although, the decaying, graffiti-covered station continues to host freight trains.
While officially closed to the public, you can grab glimpses of the disused platform from the gated stairs on the station’s still-operational upper level. Bold urban explorers have been known to hop the gates and visit the lower level, but as always, run the risk of getting nabbed by Transit Police. Supposedly guided tours are occasionally offered through the Transit Museum, but I haven’t been able to verify this.
It’s a shame the romantic climax to this delightful movie took place on what is now a dark, dank, mostly inaccessible location.
Produced on a modest budget without a lot of high expectations, Crocodile Dundee ended up being a surprise worldwide hit, becoming the biggest money-maker of all time in Australia. But despite its huge success (inspiring two sequels), Dundee was starting to look like it was going to be one of those 80s films that would slowly fall into cinema obscurity. And yet, this Aussie flick has managed to stick around, finding new audiences enamored by Hogan’s affable, easygoing charm.
Sure, the plot is simple and predictable, but the way the filmmakers handled the little moments is what makes Crocodile Dundee special. Nothing is too heavy-handed or over-the-top, with most situations taken on with carefree ease.
As I alluded earlier when describing the scene outside the public library, almost none of the characters are very mean-spirited. There are a few exceptions, like the pimp and the street mugger, but they end up being discarded quite effortlessly and without much hoopla.
Even if the New York characters come across as a little cartoonish, they all have memorable personalities, representing a good sampling of different types. Of course, one of the standout characters is Gus the limo driver, played by Reginald VelJohnson, best known for his work in Die Hard or the TV sitcom Family Matters.
But my favorite secondary character from the film is the Plaza’s doorman, played by Irving Metzman. For some reason, Metzman’s unassuming performances have always stood out to me. He was one of those utility actors who’d pop up in a bunch of popular eighties movies, like Arthur (1981) or WarGames (1983), but you’d never know his name.
Overall, Dundee isn’t an earth-shattering masterpiece, but it’s got a wonderful, old-fashioned, effervescent quality to it, making it hard to dislike. Even some of the more dated material kind of adds to the charm.
If you’ve never seen it or haven’t seen it in a while, it might be time to slip a shrimp on the barbie and give Crocodile Dundee a viewing.
Great work as usual. I appreciate getting to revisit these locations. It’s a charming little movie that’s sense of humor seems to hold up very well even with today’s audiences. I’m not trying to make a statement, but I’ve noticed on a few reaction channels with today’s atmosphere, I was surprised to see almost all of them completely pulled back from any of the jokes involving stereotypes (even though most of them were pretty lighthearted). It’s just interesting to notice the contrast as someone who lived through the 80’s.
On the new format, both ways are good, but I do prefer the old gif’s. There’s something about seeing it transform before your eyes that makes it captivating imo. Either way, it’s still great stuff. Thanks again.
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Very nice! I like the new side-by-side before/afters. One doesn’t have to wait to compare details, and I imagine it’s easier for you to prepare since perfect alignment is not as important.
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Good sleuthing all around. I especially like the THALIA search. Richard’s apartment at 243 East 49th was also Betsy’s apartment in Taxi Driver - the one at the end of the film where Travis drops her off. (It’s either 243 or next door at 245 – it’s hard to tell).
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Holy cow, Bob! Thanks for that tidbit. I was suspicious that Betsy’s place was on the East Side somewhere but couldn’t find it. I will have to recheck that scene.
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Great post as always. I happened to re-watch this last year, fun to revisit it again now. Your GIFs are fascinating, you manage to match both images precisely, but my particular brain finds it easier to see and compare details with static side-by-side images.
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Thanks John. Yeah, there are things I like about both formats, but I agree, it’s a little easier to compare the details in side by sides, without having to wait for a transition to take place. But when I get two images perfectly aligned, it’s very satisfying seeing the transformation take place.
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Cool to see these locations, including the fancy restaurant.
I like both GIFs and side by sides, but sometimes the GIFs are glitchy on my computer so I’d vote for the side by sides.
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This is so great, so well done. Thanks for the mention of my documentary and reminding me about Astor Place Hairstylists being in the film. Great memories.
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Thanks, Karen. Discovered your doc thru JEREMIAH’S VANISHING NEW YORK. Fingers crossed Astor Place Hair sticks around for a while.
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I hope so too. I just keep spreading the word about the place and reminding people it’s very much still there. If you’d like another NYC story, you may like my other doc called Begging Naked. It covers a lot of ground. https://www.amazon.com/Begging-Naked-Elise-Bainbridge-Hill/dp/B0078JO3A4
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